. >> right. >> you can't fault people for that. at the same time, i don't want detroit to look like houston or, you know, or every other city basically. >> right. >> except a handful of cities, so, you know, i guess i'm referring more to that, you know, what i guess what i referred to earlier, that mystique that detroit has that i think it shares with places like new orleans and handful of other cities, and it's hard to put your finger on, you know, you know, what makes that essential. you know, what components, you know, play into that exactly, but, yeah, it's just something to think about i guess. >> you don't think we'll stop being detroit if we get our act together and make things better? >> no, no, it's more about paving over haste ri, maybe, i think that's what -- history, maybe, i think that is what i was getting at completely. >> okay. yeah, we should probably take some questions from the audience. if there are any. come on, folks, you got to have questions. >> [inaudible] >> sure. >> i'm marsha music, and i read a lot about detroit, and i know that in your tie log with one another,